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The German learns why American sports teams move cities.

Here’s our plan to make American sports leagues better: every city gets a team (for each of the big 4) and relegation is introduced. Also billionaires have to buy their own stadiums. Lastly, give Seattle its basketball team back.

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  1. When you break it down, both sides are defending their traditions. European fans are afraid of having their teams taken away from them due to commercialization, American fans want the biggest spectacle possible and are willing to pay for it. I'm cool with either side, because I both enjoy watching my local German football club and the NFL.

  2. I think both systems could benefit from each other.
    It would be good for the american leagues if they started to relegate the worst teams to a lower tier in order to stop those teams from tanking. No one "wants" to loose if they have to fight for their place in the league.
    What I would love in germany is if they took the american draft system. I like that the bad teams of the last season get better talents for the next season. It's more possible to rebuild and start a comeback.

  3. Well, the German Bundesliga is a really bad and at the same time a really good example.

    In the first league, there are several clubs that have received significant sums from private investors, and the story of Hoffenheim (which I still can't even point out on a map, despite being quite good with geography) is mainly a story of successful investment rather than a romantic sports movie with several training montages. Also, yes, Bayern Munich wins every time, this is true as well. At the same time, however, Bayern – despite my personal dislike of them and their pompous nature – is still a traditional club with a long-standing cultural heritage dating back to 1900.

    Anyway. Even if the fight for the top spot has become dramatically less interesting over the past decades, there's still the always-open ended relegation fights, the fight for the second spot, the international spots et cetera.
    The 2nd league, at the same time, attracts almost as many viewers and stadium-goers as the first – that's because there, too, are usually big, tradition-rich clubs in there (like HSV from Hamburg – the German dude is wearing their jersey, it's my favourite club as well…despite the fact they've been in the second league for about six years now).

    I'm not sure about the American mentality towards sports, but in Germany, wherever you're born primarily determines what club you'll be a fan of. Born near or in Hamburg, you're HSV or St. Pauli fan. If you were unfortunately born near or in Bremen, you'll be a Werder Bremen fan (again, my condolences).
    There are execptions to that rule, there always are, and they are just as respected. When I worked in the Black Forest region (south-western Germany) a couple years back, I once drove past a house perched on a steep slope next to the road that had a garage painted with the HSV logo. Either they're "expatriates" from the North, or they're just HSV fans for some cool reason.

    The unfortunate shadow that such fandom casts is the tribalism that this encourages: There are so-called "Ultras", hooligans who seem to care little about the sport itself and instead have an exaggerated sense of loyalty to the club, often resulting in alcohol-fueled brawls outside the stadium and forbidden pyrotechnics inside the stadium, frequently provoking a game pause. Though only rarely will these actions end up in a complete abort of all activities on the field, leaving the game to be repeated on a different date and resulting in comparatively high penalty sums that not those "Ultras" pay, but the very club they're fan of.
    Though it should be said that only very rarely will there be innocent people harmed by such incidents: Ultras are usually perched into their own stadium sections, and that's cool with everyone involved.
    Most of them are peaceful anyway, and I personally have met my share of them. Their fandom doesn't permeate their very being, they work normal jobs, they just have a different way of spending their free time. In fact, "Ultras" usually organize themselves into or are part of fan clubs, which play an important part of keeping the fan culture alive.

  4. American Teams: We moved from this city to this city to this city…
    European Teams: Our fans are furious because we're moving to a new stadium 2km away from our old one where we've been playing since 1895.

    Also, Americans, please please please work on your chants. It's not a proper sports chant if you're not grossly insulting the opposing player/team/fans/referee set to the melody of a well known classical piece, folk song or tv show theme.

  5. It might be unpopular to say, but i feel like you can have good billionaires in sports. Billionaires in sports isnt always terrible in the same way that fan ownership isnt always great, but the important thing, and the reason i respect the bundesliga fans, is that they stick to their guns about it.

    And American sports billionaires are very different to Asian or European ones. Most Americans own sports teams to make money, everyone else tends to lose money on sports, it's a passion project for them.

  6. As an Aussie AFL fan I love how the Bundesliga prioritises the fans. Sport is for the ppl. Not billionaires and sports washing states.

    The majority of our clubs are fan governed NFP entities. 150yrs plus some of them and 4th most attended league in the world. Not bad for a country the size of a continent with 25m ppl where half play rugby league.

  7. At least US sports has salary caps and therefore keeps leagues interesting. In Europe the rich teams can just buy up everything and dominate domestic leagues. 30 years ago I definitely would have agreed with you when your leagues were still competitive.

  8. Talking about money and sport. After more than 70 years, the DFL and DFB (German Football Association) are giving up their partnership with Adidas because Nike from the USA has made them a "better" offer. Pathetic.

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